An introduction to PRINCE2 Agile – webinar with Andrew KellSimon Buehring

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In this webinar, Andrew Kell explores the basics of PRINCE2 and how it can be integrated with agile methodologies.PRINCE2 Agile training is a great way for PRINCE2 project managers to learn new skills and develop their careers. It’s also a great way for those new to PRINCE2 and Agile to learn how these two approaches can be used together to achieve better results.

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Watch the video, listen to the help you develop your career and skillsetaudio., or read the full To skip to the section most relevant to you, click one of the links below:transcriptI want to start a career in agile project management below.I want to add agile tools to my project management skills

About Andrew KellI want to advance my career with a PRINCE2 Agile qualification.

Andrew is a professional with over 30 years of experience in Start a career as an agile project manageragileIs project management the right career for you? and Project management is the natural career development path for many roles. Project management is also a great stepping-stone to more senior positions such as project management office (PMO) director or chief operating officer (COO).project managementPotential for growth. Throughout his career, he has held a variety of roles, including project manager, business analyst, developer, consultant, trainer, agile coach, and business systems manager.Agile project management is a rapidly growing discipline. More organisations across the world are adapting their approach to project management and product development with agile tools and frameworks.

Andrew has been using PRINCE2 Agile guidance helps you to perform a multitude of roles. agile methodologiesFew businesses rely solely on agile methods to manage the entire project lifecycle since 1994 in various industries. He considers himself an Agile pragmatist, as he recognises that while agile can be effective when implemented correctly, it can also fail if not done properly..

PRINCE2 Agile coursesTraditional

PRINCE2 Agile is a project management certification program developed by AXELOS and released in June 2015. It was created in response to the growing demand from the management community to update the PRINCE2 project management method and incorporate agile tools and practices.‘waterfall’

PRINCE2 Agile combines the strong governance and control elements of the project management still provide the governance and controls necessary to ensure reliable delivery of products and services.PRINCE2PRINCE2 Agile helps you to work effectively in organisations that use method with the flexibility and adaptability of agile approachesAgile. This is especially valuable in industries and sectors where Agile is not yet mature enough to supersede traditional project management approaches..Project management skills

The PRINCE2 Agile qualification has 2 levels, the Foundation level and the Practitioner level.Starting your career in project management isn’t as difficult as you may think. Many of the

The soft skills required by project managersPRINCE2 Agile Foundation training can be learned in many other roles. These skills include: is designed to give students a basic understanding of how to use the CommunicationPRINCE2 methodTeamwork within an agile framework.Problem-solving

The LeadershipPRINCE2 Agile Practitioner trainingTime management. focuses on applying PRINCE2 in an agile context, helping students understand how to apply the method in real-world situations effectively.So long as you have the required industry-specific knowledge and technical skills,

Both courses provide valuable knowledge and skills for those interested in using PRINCE2 Agile in their it’s never too soon to start your journey into professional project managementproject management practices..Project management career change

Two options for taking a We are experts in the field of agile project management. In our 15+ years as an accredited training provider, PRINCE2 Agile coursewe’ve helped thousands of students earn recognised agile project management qualifications and make the leap into agile project management are instructor-led or self-paced..

In an instructor-led course, you will have the opportunity to learn from an experienced and professional trainer.No matter where your expertise lies, there’s likely to be an agile project management role suitable for you. Our past students have found successful employment in the following industries, to name only a few:

Alternatively, you can choose a self-paced course, which allows you to learn at your own pace through an interactive platform. With a self-paced course, you can study whenever it is convenient for you as long as you have a good internet connection.Engineering

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TranscriptSusan P

Here’s the full transcript of the video.Programme & Portfolio Manager, British Red Cross.

00:00:00 Sevcan YasaEnhance your skills with our expert-led courses: Andrew, would you like to start now? Yeah OK, OK perfect.

00:00:02 Andrew Kell : Let’s make a start.

00:00:04 Sevcan YasaInstructor-led: So, thank you everyone for joining, just a quick start.PRINCE2 Agile Foundation course

00:00:09 Sevcan Yasa : I’m Sevcan and I’m the marketing executive at £1,299 +vatKnowledge Train . Knowledge Train is a training provider and owns AgileKRC which specifically focuses on agile.See all dates

00:00:20 Sevcan Yasa : Just before I head over to you Andrew, I would like to mention that at the end there will be a Q&A session. So, if you have any questions, you can always pop it down in the chat and Andrew will answer them at the end, Andrew over to you.

00:00:34 Andrew Kell : Thanks, Sevcan welcome everyone. Good afternoon, a couple of bits and pieces. It’s quite nice to see some familiar faces popping up in the participant list.Instructor-led

00:00:45 Andrew KellPRINCE2 Agile Practitioner (with Foundation) course: Even people who’ve been on some of my courses have come back for more. Extraordinary. So welcome to the afternoon’s session just to explain how it’s going to work, and my plan is to talk for about 40 minutes or so and then we’ll have a Q&A session. And obviously, it’s an agile session, so we will finish on time at 5 o’clock or by 5.

00:01:07 Andrew Kell£2,099 +vat: In terms of the Q&A session, if people think of questions during the session, please pop them in the chat if I think they’re relevant to address at the time, I’ll pick them up immediately.

00:01:16 Andrew KellSee all dates: Otherwise, we’ll address them at the end of the session, so just use the chat for those please. Also, I’m going to suggest that if you want to share any of your experiences about the subject matter with me or with the other participants again, please use the chat for that as well.Learn to manage agile projects effectively

00:01:31 Andrew KellLearn practical skills with PRINCE2 Agile: I will endeavor to keep an eye on it as we go through the material. Those of you who have been on my courses will know that multitasking is not necessarily my strength.Practical skills

00:01:41 Andrew KellPRINCE2 Agile provides guidance applicable to all levels of agile project management. Whether you’re a developer working in a PRINCE2 project environment, an experienced PRINCE2 project manager, or have no experience in project management, the guidance will help you.: I’m also going to make a confession this is the first time I’ve used this platform in anger, so apologies if I screw anything up. Hopefully I won’t, Sevcan on hand to sort of help me out if I do get a bit stuck, so let’s have a look at what we’re going to cover.Boost your confidence

00:01:55 Andrew KellPRINCE2 Agile can help to increase your confidence of working in agile ways. This is what the different qualifications can offer you:: And by the way, I’ve noticed that my location in the participant list is down at Newcastle. Not that it matters, but I’m not in Newcastle, I’m in Surrey, so I’m absolutely nowhere near Newcastle it doesn’t not that it matters – I couldn’t work out how to change it.PRINCE2 Agile Foundation

00:02:08 Andrew Kell is an entry-level qualification and has no prerequisites. This makes it a great point to start your journey into agile project management.: So, what are we going to spend talking about over the next 40 minutes or so. I’m just going to find my slides, there we go.PRINCE2 Agile Practitioner

00:02:15 Andrew Kell is an intermediate qualification, and to be eligible you must hold a PRINCE2 Foundation qualification or equivalent. It is ideal for experienced PRINCE2 project managers, senior management staff and those who want to kickstart a career in project management.: I’ll start with a very quick introduction. Obviously not everyone in the group has come across me before, so I’ll just give you a very quick introduction, a little bit of my background. We’re then going to talk about some of the real basics to do with projects and agile.What will PRINCE2 Agile teach me?

00:02:28 Andrew KellYou will learn : Obviously, I don’t know what people’s experiences are in terms of projects or practical, effective, and applicable toolsPRINCE2 or agile, that you can immediately start to apply to the management of your agile projects., or even PRINCE2 Agile. So, we will go through some of the real basics.PRINCE2 Agile Foundation helps you:

00:02:37 Andrew KellUnderstand the requirements of PRINCE2 governance: We’ll also discuss some of the real basics of PRINCE2 again and how it relates to agile, and hopefully also in that session we’ll do a little bit of myth busting.Learn about different agile approaches such as Scrum, Kanban, Lean Start-up and Cynefin

00:02:46 Andrew KellLearn how the rigour and structure of PRINCE2 can be blended with the flexibility of agile approaches.: There are a lot of preconceptions and sometimes prejudices about some of this subject matter, and we’ll try and bust some of those myths.To view the full

00:02:53 Andrew KellPRINCE2 Agile Foundation syllabus: Also, I’m going to attempt to answer the question is an , click agile projecthere an oxymoron, you know? Does that sentence actually make sense?.

00:03:02 Andrew KellPRINCE2 Agile Practitioner helps you:: Clearly I think it does, by the way, but we’ll talk about that, then we’ll talk about what PRINCE2 Agile is, what it is, what it isn’t, but also where it fits into some of the other Learn a range of agile behaviours, concepts, techniquesAgile approachesTailor the PRINCE2 themes, processes, and management products to suit an agile context that I’m sure quite of you guys are familiar with.‘Fix’ and ‘flex’ project performance targets in agile ways

00:03:16 Andrew KellLearn to correctly apply PRINCE2 Agile in a practical project scenario.: We’re then going to talk about something called the hexagon and this is PRINCE2 Agile’s version of the traditional time, cost, quality, scope, triangle that I’m sure quite a few of you are familiar with, so we’ll go through PRINCE2 Agile’s hexagon.To view the full

00:03:33 Andrew KellPRINCE2 Agile Practitioner syllabus: Then we’re going to talk about the elements of PRINCE2 – again an introductory overview. We’ll discuss the PRINCE2 Agile’s, targets, behaviours, frameworks, focus areas, techniques, and concepts., click

00:03:47 Andrew Kellhere: Then I’m going to talk very briefly about a concept that I think is mine, actually. Which is something that I call ‘agile by stealth’ which will probably be the title of my book whenever I get around to writing it, which I probably won’t..

00:03:59 Andrew KellAdvance your career as a project manager: But if I did, that’s what it’s going to be called. And then hopefully that’ll be round about 4:40, maybe, maybe between 4:40 and 4:45 and then we’ll have to have time for a Q&A session. I’m hoping to fit in a couple of polls if we have time. Certainly, one or maybe two polls as we go through.PRINCE2 Agile qualified project management professional earns an average annual salary of £51,000

00:04:15 Andrew Kell[2]: So that will give you a chance to have some of your inputs. Sevcan I’ve just noticed that someone has raised their hand, but I have no way of telling easily who that was or what it’s about, so.. The rapid growth of agile across all sectors provides ample opportunity for agile-certified project managers to seek higher pay and develop their careers.

00:04:27 Sevcan YasaWhy use PRINCE2 Agile?: Yeah, it’s Susanna.PRINCE2 is a methodology

00:04:30 Andrew KellPRINCE2 is the world’s most widely used project management methodology. It is a : OK.customer-focused project management methodology

00:04:30 Sevcan Yasa. PRINCE2 helps project managers reliably achieve project goals through planning, risk and change management, and by applying systematic controls through effective project governance.: Would you like to write in the chat if that’s the case.Agile does not provide project management

00:04:32 Andrew KellAgile approaches typically do not concern themselves with project management and governance. Instead, they focus on : Yeah, that’s what I was going to suggest.how to deliver value to customers quickly

00:04:32 Sevcan Yasa and in the most efficient manner.: OK.PRINCE2 and Agile can work to complement each other, capitalising on the strengths of each while accounting for the weaknesses inherent to either approach.

00:04:34 Andrew KellPRINCE2 Agile is important because it guides you how best to incorporate Agile into PRINCE2 without creating unnecessary friction and inefficiencies.: So, whatever it is you’re trying to raise Suzanne. If you could pop that in the chat, that would be the easiest way of dealing with it.PRINCE2 vs Agile

00:04:41 Andrew KellPRINCE2 focuses on understanding what products are needed to support business goals. Agile helps create the said products efficiently.: So, let’s go back to the slides starting with an introduction to me, apologies to those of you who have been on one of my training courses because you’ve heard all of this before.Combining PRINCE2 and Agile together blends

00:04:50 Andrew Kellstructure, direction and reliability with flexibility and responsiveness: I have over 30 years. Oh I really didn’t like writing that on a slide, but I do have over 30 years of experience in lots of different roles. I’ve worked as a developer. I’ve worked as an analyst both the systems and the .business analystThose working in a PRINCE2 project environment are free to use any development approach they choose providing they comply with the management framework defined by PRINCE2. actually; I’ve worked as a PRINCE2 Agile helps organisation that are familiar with PRINCE2 start to incorporate agile methods into their development life cycle.project manager The PRINCE2 Agile course helped me land a promotion within my company. The course was easy to understand and helped consolidate my PRINCE2 knowledge in an Agile context.. I’ve been a consultant, I’ve done, worked as a trainer.

00:05:09 Andrew Kell : As I know, some of you know I do currently work as an agile coach, and I’ve also had a role as a business systems manager. I’ve worked for lots of different organizations.

00:05:18 Andrew KellPeter F: I’ve put a little list of them down at the bottom of the slide. I won’t read them out. You can look at those for yourselves. I’ve been using agile again, terrifying amount of time effectively now for 28 years in the 1990s and I know some of you will know this already. We weren’t calling it agile we were calling it RAD. RAD stands for Rapid Application Development.Help Desk Analyst, Fujitsu Global.

00:05:39 Andrew KellEnhance your skills with our expert-led courses: But I was a RAD developer in the 90s and then obviously agile came along in 2001 and I’ve been working in agile in various different roles you know, for a very long time now. I’ve been an independent consultant since 2009. So, for 13 years now, I’ve worked for myself. I’ve worked for agileKRC since 2011, so I’ve been working with these guys for 11 years. Running other courses and doing some agile coaching.

00:06:06 Andrew Kell : I would describe myself as an agile pragmatist. I don’t think I’m an agile evangelist. I’m very keen on agile. I hope that will come across in this session.

00:06:17 Andrew KellInstructor-led: But I know that agile isn’t a silver bullet. You know it’s not a magical way of making things easy. It’s not necessarily a cheap way of doing things. It’s not necessarily an easy or quick way of doing things. It’s a way of doing things, and if you get certain things right agile works really well and I’ve seen agile work brilliantly on, you know in all sorts of different environments.PRINCE2 Agile Foundation course

00:06:37 Andrew Kell : I’ve also seen agile fail. Spectacularly. And if you don’t get certain things right, agile really struggles, so you know sentences like ‘we’re going to use agile for everything’ in most companies don’t really make sense, so I like to think of myself as an agile pragmatist. I’m also and some of you will know this already very fond of a cheese joke, and I’m known for two things on the courses that I run one is endlessly talking about agile and the other is cheese jokes now some of you will have heard some of my cheese jokes before, and there are some very well-known cheese jokes, so I’m actually going to pop a little cheese related question in the chat.£1,299 +vat

00:07:14 Andrew Kell : Which I’d like you to think about during the webinar. This is a slightly more obscure cheese joke. And if you think you know you’ve worked out the answer, pop it in the chat, and if no one’s got it, I’ll tell you what the answer is at the end of the session.See all dates

00:07:29 Andrew Kell : So the question is in the chat. How would you describe eating a whole Greek cheese?

00:07:35 Andrew Kell : So that’s something to think about in the background, hopefully while also still listening to me by the way.Instructor-led

00:07:41 Andrew KellPRINCE2 Agile Practitioner (with Foundation) course: So, it’s not one of the ones I use on my courses, so if you’ve been on my courses, you probably won’t have heard that joke before. So that’s an introduction to me.

00:07:48 Andrew Kell£2,099 +vat: Let’s talk about projectsSee all dates and I’m sure again I’m not going to assume any particular degree of knowledge.Advance your career with a PRINCE2 Agile qualification

00:07:57 Andrew KellDemonstrate your dedication to continued professional development: That’s not the answer, Emily. That’s the answer to a different cheese question, I like the answer it’s not the answer I’m after.On passing your PRINCE2 Agile Practitioner exam, you will be awarded your qualification and the status of PRINCE2 Registered Practitioner.

00:08:02 Andrew KellMaintaining our status as a Registered Practitioner is not mandatory but it does provide some great benefits including:: I’m not going to, you know I’m not going to assume a certain level of knowledge in the audience about any of the subject matter, so we’ll start with some real basics.Access to the latest project management publications including industry reports and case-studies

00:08:10 Andrew KellA digital badge that validates your certification and provide an easy means to display your achievements online.: Projects are typically complicated, they’re unique, they’re temporary, and a project should always end.Why maintain your Registered Practitioner status?

00:08:18 Andrew KellYour status as a PRINCE2 Registered Practitioner will expire after 3 years. To maintain your status, you must be a member of AXELOS and accrue 20 Continuing Professional Development Points (CDP) each year.: I mean, I’ve certainly worked on projects in the past that felt like they were never going to, but they should always be an end point on a project and projects by definition need Earning CDP can be done project managementin a number of ways. They need a great degree of control, they need planning. They typically need you know things to be recorded and documented., but most commonly through further training, professional experience and participation within the project management community.

00:08:34 Andrew KellDoing so shows employers that you are willing to invest your own time and money into your career and that : You know the level to which you need those things will depend on the project and the context and the company you work for and what your regulatory requirements are and governance needs are. So that’s a little bit about the project.they should invest in you

00:08:46 Andrew Kell.: Agile as agile has been around since 2001 when Agile is the new normthe Agile ManifestoPRINCE2 Agile is a great way to incorporate modern methods into your approach to project management. It can provide you with a solid foundation on which to build and the original further skills, knowledge, and expertise in agile project management12 agile principles. were published and Agile is a way of doing things. I always describe it as a mindset. An agile mindset is a phrase I use all the time. So, when we work in an agile way, we’re very flexible, you know, a lot of Agile methods are becoming increasingly popular and failing to act now may limit employment opportunities in your future.agile methodsGlobal employment opportunities or approaches are not recipe books. They’re designed to be tailored and adapted to what you’re working on.PRINCE2 is used by multi-national organisations, NGOs, and government institutions

00:09:16 Andrew Kellall over the world: They’re also flexible in terms of handling change, and I always ask at the beginning of sessions, you know when people are joining in ‘Do you work on projects where you don’t get change?’ and I don’t think I’ve ever had a positive answer to that question, by the way, so we all work on .projectsIf you’re searching for new work abroad, want to begin freelancing, or work in an international consultancy, PRINCE2 Agile can help you work better with customers, suppliers, and contractors. where things change, so there’s no point in pretending things don’t change.PRINCE2 Agile was developed to be

00:09:36 Andrew Kelluniversally useful: Let’s accept that things are going to change and when they change, we’ll try and deal with them. So that’s an aspect of flexibility.. Earning your qualification teaches you a common vocabulary and a shared understanding that can help facilitate communication with other trained professionals.

00:09:43 Andrew Kell The PRINCE2 Agile course really helped affirm my knowledge in project management, it’s always good to stay sharp in a constantly changing environment!: Agile approaches are highly collaborative, so they typically involve working in teams, and those are cross functional teams where you’ve got very strong representation from the customer as well as the more technical people involved as well as people from the management side all working together collaboratively.

00:09:59 Andrew KellJohn R: Agile is very value driven, very strong focus on understanding what value means to the customer and trying to deliver that to those people.Senior Project Manager, Reuters.

00:10:07 Andrew KellEnhance your skills with our expert-led courses: Also, we deliver solutions incrementally in a pure waterfall approach , we deliver the solution at the end. In what is commonly referred to as a ‘Big Bang’.

00:10:20 Andrew KellInstructor-led: That’s getting close Mark, that answer I’ve just spotted in the chat so we’re getting in the right direction.PRINCE2 Agile Foundation course

00:10:27 Andrew Kell : So, we deliver solutions in agile incrementally rather than doing it at the end. And that gives us the ability to deliver early value to the customer, so that aligns with value driven when we develop solutions, we do it iteratively and we invite feedback from the customer on a very frequent basis and we show people what we’re doing and we try and find out whether we’re getting it right or not, and if we’re getting it wrong, that’s not necessarily a bad thing as long as we’ve found out quickly and that’s iterative development.£1,299 +vat

00:10:55 Andrew Kell : And just at the bottom of the slide I’ve put the agile is used in both a BAU Business As Usual environment where we do lots of ongoing, sort of work, typically updating things that already exist, but it’s also used in a project environment and certainly over the last at least 10 years there’s been an increase in the use of agile in the project environment, probably longer than that actually thinking about it, I’ve also popped on the slide you know, just quite a few images appearing on my slides.See all dates

00:11:24 Andrew Kell : Mostly relevant, I’ve popped the Agile manifesto . I’m sure quite a few of you are very familiar with the Agile manifesto.Instructor-led

00:11:31 Andrew KellPRINCE2 Agile Practitioner (with Foundation) course: It’s been around since 2001. It has 12 agile principles£2,099 +vat that sit behind it. It contains 4 agile values. It’s probably the closest thing that exists in the world to a definition of what we mean by agile.

00:11:47 Andrew KellSee all dates: Now what the Agile manifesto does do is mention the word software and it has done since 2001.About our training

00:11:53 Andrew KellKnowledge Train is an accredited training organisation for PRINCE2 Agile.: What some organisations have done the Agile Business Consortium, for example, is they’ve replaced that word software with something like solution and if you tweak make that minor tweak to this manifesto, this is a set of values that applies to anything you do it doesn’t have to be to do with software, so that’s quite a nice adaptation of the manifesto that I’ve come across being used by some organizations.Trainers

00:12:14 Andrew KellOur : So, a little bit about projects and agile. Again, I put this slide in just to show one of the clear differences between a trainerswaterfall project have years of applied experience in both PRINCE2 and agile approaches, and have the skills needed to help others learn from their experience. and an iterative and incremental project.We hire trainers who can engage and motivate our students and help them learn the intricacies of each subject.

00:12:27 Andrew KellOur rigorous selection process for trainers and ongoing improvements means you can be assured you’ll get the best learning experience available.: The waterfall project, very linear, very sequential, typically very structured and we don’t deliver something to the customer until the end of the project and an agile project we deliver the solution incrementally so they get something that they can start using for real earlier, so there’s your early value and when we develop those solutions, we do it iteratively and I always think of iterative as another word for cyclical.For more information about instructor-led training courses leading to PRINCE2 Agile qualifications, see our

: Sorry about the pun and I was hoping that some wouldn’t get that quite so quickly.

00:13:19 Andrew Kell: Now let’s talk about PRINCE2 and then a little bit more about agile relating to PRINCE2. So PRINCE2 has been around since 1996, so a well-established project management approach{"@context":"https://schema.org","@type":"ImageObject","contentUrl":"https://www.knowledgetrain.co.uk/training-courses/how-prince2-agile-qualifications-can-help-your-career.webp","description":"How PRINCE2 Agile qualifications can help your career","license":"https://www.knowledgetrain.co.uk/license","acquireLicensePage":"https://www.knowledgetrain.co.uk/license","creditText":"Knowledge Train","uploadDate":"2023-05-18T04:48:37.000Z","copyrightNotice":"© 2023 Knowledge Train Limited. All rights reserved.","creator":{"@type":"Organization","name":"Knowledge Train","url":"https://www.knowledgetrain.co.uk"}} in fact as PRINCE, it existed before that.

00:13:33 Andrew KellRelated articles: But as PRINCE2 it’s been around since 1996. There was a major update to PRINCE2 in 2009 and in 2009 they completely aligned PRINCE2 with agile and since you know for 13 years now, there’s been nothing in PRINCE2 that goes against doing things in an agile way, so it’s not a traditional. You know the waterfall project management approach. That is a very common misconception and I do get a lot of people on courses who talk about PRINCE2 clearly talking about it as a waterfall approach, so it’s not a waterfall project management approach. It can be used clearly to run waterfall projects , but it can also be used to run agile projects.

00:14:14 Andrew Kell : It’s also got this very strong reputation for being very, very bureaucratic. Those of you who know something about PRINCE2 will know that there are 26 management products in PRINCE2, so absolutely it could become very bureaucratic. Of course it could, but sometimes we need a high degree level of bureaucracy on complex, highly governed projects.

00:14:34 Andrew Kell : There’s also a bit of a misconception that PRINCE2 is very much a command-and-control style of management and that also is not true and one of the PRINCE2 principles we’re going to look at in a moment is managed by exception which is very much moving away from, you know very old school traditional command and control styles of management.

00:14:54 Andrew Kell : So, a little bit about PRINCE2 and I’m sure we’ve got quite a few PRINCE2 Practitioners in the group. Now PRINCE2 AgilePRINCE2 Agile focus areas has been around since 2015.

00:15:03 Andrew KellSimon Buehring: So, it’s been around for seven years now, so again, relatively well established.19 Feb 2026

00:15:08 Andrew Kell : It’s useful for any project. Again, it’s not designed just for IT projects you can use PRINCE2 Agile on any sort of project.Merging Agile methods with PRINCE2 requires focusing on five key areas. Explore these to enhance your project's agility and success.

00:15:16 Andrew Kell : Agile is probably still predominantly used in software development, but over the last few years it’s very much moved away from that, and more companies are using agile on all sorts of different projects, and the PRINCE2 Agile view of Agile is that agile is a family of behaviours, concepts, frameworks or approaches, and finally techniques and we will go through each of those elements a little bit later on in the session.

00:15:42 Andrew Kell : So finally, a little bit on this slide about agile and one of the common misconceptions is that agile and scrum are the same thing and I think the reason for that is that scrum is the most widely used agile approach, so most people using agile, talk about sprints, they talk about product owners, they talk about backlogs, you know, they use all the Scrum language as I know some of you know there are lots of other agile frameworks and approaches, and we’ll have a quick look at some of those in a little bit.

00:16:10 Andrew Kell : Also agile is not a binary condition and this is something we’re going to explore in a moment in a bit more detail.CAPM Certification (Certified Associate in Project Management): Requirements, Cost, Exam, and How to Apply

00:16:17 Andrew Kell : So being agile is not yes or no. It’s more about you know how much agile can we use on this bit of work that we’re doing. And there’s again, there’s a misconception that agile involves no planning, no control, no structure, no documentation, and again that is very much not the case.Simon Buehring

00:16:36 Andrew Kell1 Jul 2026: Agile says you still need those things, but they need to be appropriate to what they are doing and yes we try and keep things as informal as we can and as flexible as we can and we try and agree things collaboratively rather than focusing on very, you know formal sign off, but we still need those levels of control and the more govern the environment you work in the more of that stuff you’re going to need.

00:16:59 Andrew KellThe Certified Associate in Project Management (CAPM) is an entry level project management certification issued by the Project Management Institute (PMI). It validates project management fundamentals across predictive (waterfall) methodologies and agile project management, helping early career professionals build credible, PMBOK Guide aligned knowledge. : So just hoping, hopefully trying to bust some of those myths that float around to do with all these subjects.

00:17:06 Andrew Kell : So, a very quick run through the PRINCE2 principles and I’m sure there are people in the group who are more than familiar with PRINCE2, but if we look at PRINCE2’s 7 principles they all align with agile.

00:17:18 Andrew KellWhat is PRINCE2?: There’s nothing in here that goes against agile, so the first one ‘Continued business justification’. We should always know why we’re doing this project, you know, and understand what business drivers are and have very clear goals, objectives and vision and they need to be clearly stated and defined so that we know why we’re doing this thing.

00:17:39 Andrew KellSimon Buehring: The second one, ‘Learn from previous experience’. In other words, learn as you go and we’ll see the term continuous improvement coming up on a later slide, so you know if we are getting things wrong, what can we change to make things better? So absolutely learn from previous experience.30 Jun 2026

00:17:55 Andrew Kell : Also make sure we have clearly ‘Defined roles and responsibilities’, and again that aligns very well with agile. You know, for example, PRINCE2 (Projects IN Controlled Environments) is a structured project management method used to plan, control and deliver projects through defined roles, stages and management products. It is used by project managers, project teams and governance groups such as a Project Board to improve control, business justification and delivery outcomes.Scrum has three clearly defined roles. There are other agile approaches like DSDM , which I know some of you will be familiar with that have a more significant set of 13 roles really well defined.

00:18:14 Andrew Kell : Let’s make sure we know who is responsible for what. ‘Manage by stages’ I think can be aligned with agile because you could replace the word stages with the word release or the word increment and then you make sure you treat those increments or releases as management stages within PRINCE.

00:18:32 Andrew Kell : The 4th one very much about you know the management style is we ‘Manage by exception’. So as a Women in project managementproject manager you know we do need to be happy that everyone’s got very clear objectives.Simon Buehring

00:18:43 Andrew Kell19 Feb 2026: But then when the development teams are doing their thing, we try and leave them alone as much as we can. It’s what we call hands off project managementExplore challenges and opportunities for women in project management through our interview series. Gain insights into industry experiences and advice. if they need help, we help them and if something happens that is described as an exception and we’ll touch on exceptions briefly in a moment when we talk about the hexagon, then we step in and help the team out.

00:19:04 Andrew Kell : The 6th one is ‘Focus on the definition and delivery of products’. So, we very much look at doing outcome based planning and outcome based measurement and we plan around actually delivering things to the customer which is what the customer is interested in at the end of the day.

00:19:20 Andrew Kell : And finally, ‘Tailor to suit the projects environment’ again, extremely aligned with agile tailor approach to suit the project you’re working on and the people you’re working with and the constraints you’ve got on that project.

00:19:32 Andrew Kell : So again, if we look at PRINCE2’s principles, nothing in there that goes anything against agile. Very, very aligned with Agile indeed.

00:19:40 Andrew KellAn introduction to PRINCE2 Agile – webinar with Andrew Kell: So, here’s this question and I’ve got some interesting pictures on this slide.

00:19:44 Andrew KellSevcan Yasa: Is the term 19 Feb 2026Agile project an oxymoron? Can we have an agile project? Do agile projects exist so?Join Andrew Kell in a webinar exploring the integration of PRINCE2 and Agile methodologies. Ideal for professionals looking to adapt their project management approach.

00:19:53 Andrew Kell : The key thing here is that binary thinking is not actually that helpful, so describing a project as agile or not agile.

00:20:02 Andrew Kell : That doesn’t tend to help because a lot of projects are in a bit of a grey area where they have a degree of suitability for agile, but perhaps also a degree of that doesn’t suit agile. Maybe there are bits of the project that suit agile and there are bits that don’t, so it’s actually quite healthy to think of it as a spectrum.

00:20:21 Andrew Kell : By the way, another quick question for you. Does any – and this is probably a bit age specific this reference.Top 10 project management books

00:20:27 Andrew Kell : Does anyone in the group recognise the picture at the bottom of the slide? If you do pop something in the chat and see if you can work out the relevance of it, by the way, it’s a little bit tenuous.Simon Buehring

00:20:37 Andrew Kell19 Feb 2026: But agile, you should think of agile as, there we go. Someone’s comes straight in with the with rainbow, it’s a TV programme that some of you in the group will probably think of as a programme from the olden times it’s a few years ago now and it’s a slightly broad slanted reference to a spectrum. Just an interesting graphic, I thought.

00:20:58 Andrew KellExplore the top 10 project management books recommended by professionals. Find your next read and level up your project management knowledge.: So, the question you should ask yourself at the beginning of a project is how agile can this project be?

00:21:05 Andrew Kell : And a lot of projects end up being some sort of hybrid where you know there’s a degree of suitability for agile and a degree that’s not, and we often find ourselves blending , now I suspect some of you will have heard this word. There is a word that that I’ve heard floating around called wagil W-A-G-I-L.

00:21:26 Andrew Kell : It’s not a word I particularly like, it’s a bit of a horrid word, but the concept makes complete sense. You know this concept of blending waterfall and agile, but as per the meme on the right, that’s not a simple thing to do and if you’re going to blend these two fundamentally different approaches and effectively cherry pick from each, you really need to know what you’re doing.Project management games: Best simulations and activities for teams

00:21:48 Andrew Kell : So, it’s healthy to think of, you know, projects in an agile context. That’s quite a nice expression I came across. So that’s sort of thinking about, you know this is not yes or no.Simon Buehring

00:21:58 Andrew Kell2 Jul 2026: I’ve also put another picture in the top right-hand corner of the slide, some of you might recognise this. This is a focus area in PRINCE2 Agile called the Agilometer. It’s a word I sort of secretly, quite like actually, because it helps you understand how agile a project can be, we’ll revisit the Agilometer when we look at PRINCE2 Agile’s focus areas a little bit later.

00:22:19 Andrew KellA project management game is a structured activity or simulation that helps people practise project planning and delivery decisions in a low risk setting. Teams use it in training, onboarding and team building workshops to build skills such as scope, schedule, risk and stakeholder management, often drawing on PMBOK Guide and Agile methods.: The final question I’ve asked on this slide is there such a thing as an agile project manager and I must admit my view is that if you’re a project manager, you’re a project manager, and if you’re running an agile project, you’re still a project manager, you’re just running an agile project.

00:22:34 Andrew Kell : If you’re running a waterfall project, you’re running a waterfall project. So, I think the skill set you know broadly the same. You know there are some things you might want to specialize in if you’re looking at Agile rather than waterfall, but that’s my view anyway.

00:22:48 Andrew Kell : So, talking then about PRINCE2 Agile first of all, PRINCE2 Agile is not a methodology. I do have a copy of the PRINCE2 Agile Handbook on my desk. Of course, I do. It’s a fairly heavy, hefty old book, by the way. It’s not dissimilar in size to the PRINCE2 manualFive targets in PRINCE2 Agile but this is not a methodology or a recipe book.

00:23:11 Andrew KellSimon Buehring: It’s basically guidance on if you’re going to apply agile within a PRINCE2 project environment. How can we do that? And the diagram that you can see in the top right-hand corner of my slide.19 Feb 2026

00:23:25 Andrew Kell : When I first came across this diagram, I didn’t work out, it was a cake by the way it’s a cake with layers, and when you know that it’s pretty obvious, but what we’re trying to do in PRINCE2 Agile is take the strengths of both and blend them together. So PRINCE2 is very strong at the sort of project direction and governance level. And obviously the project management level.Discover the five core targets of PRINCE2 Agile and how they guide effective project management. Read on for insightful details.

00:23:44 Andrew Kell : Agile is very strong in the product delivery area and to some extent in the project management area. And what we’re trying to do with PRINCE2 Agile is blend those two things together and take the best bits of both.

00:24:03 Andrew Kell : What does it consist of?

00:24:05 Andrew Kell : Ooh gone too far there we go.

00:24:07 Andrew Kell : Project schedulingAgile consists of a set of behaviours we’ll see what they are in a moment, yeah, I’ve just seen Hannahs comment in the chat.Knowledge Train

00:24:16 Andrew Kell19 Feb 2026

: It’s actually quite a challenge to write really good user stories in my experience.

00:39:13 Andrew Kell : It’s a real skill, Retrospectives and again, terminology I’m sure quite a few of you have come across before.Marketing

00:39:19 Andrew Kell : You know, frequently looking at how things are going, what’s going well, what’s going badly.

00:39:25 Andrew Kell : What might we do differently now that will make things better so very aligned with continuous improvement.

00:39:32 Andrew Kell : Then Burn charts you know most commonly burn down charts in my experience, but there are also Burn charts as a visual way of showing progress in a team. Daily standups or daily scrums both terms mean the same thing. For me a really powerful part of Agile , just an opportunity for the development team to have a just a quick, you know 15-minute quick catch up.The technical storage or access is required to create user profiles to send advertising, or to track the user on a website or across several websites for similar marketing purposes.

00:39:55 Andrew KellManage options: Where are we?Manage services

00:39:56 Andrew KellManage {vendor_count} vendors

00:40:58 Andrew Kell: Also, a very widely used technique and the PRINCE2 Agile Handbook Manual does mention this is a prioritization technique called MoSCoW.

00:41:07 Andrew Kell: It’s been around since 1994, I think was when it first appears been around for donkey’s years but a very widely used technique by all sorts of agile teams. Again, I’m just keeping an eye on the clock trying to get through these as quickly as I can.

00:41:22 Andrew Kell: So, what are the concepts in PRINCE2 Agile?

00:41:25 Andrew Kell: Well, first of all, always prioritising what you do?

00:41:29 Andrew Kell: And part of the agile mindset is to prioritise everything basically and ask the question, is this actually important?

00:41:35 Andrew Kell: And I think MoSCoW is a really nice way of doing that and some of you will know I’m an enormous fan of MoSCoW.

00:41:41 Andrew Kell: Delivering solutions incrementally rather than doing it at the end of the project.

00:41:46 Andrew Kell: As we discussed earlier, not necessarily delivering everything, and it’s absolutely key that the customer understands that you know as I say, on agile project management courses, the shiny stuff in agile is a really easy sell.

00:42:02 Andrew Kell: Telling them that they’re going to get everything they ask for is a much more complex conversation, but you have to have that conversation at the beginning of the project.

00:42:09 Andrew Kell: They’ve got to understand that’s effectively, that’s the compromise that they’ve got to accept.

00:42:13 Andrew Kell: If they want the shiny bits, also when we develop solutions doing it cyclically and iteratively, and getting lots of feedback as we do it.

00:42:22 Andrew Kell: I’m not, I’m sure some of you have heard the expression fail fast, that’s how we fail fast.

00:42:27 Andrew Kell: You know, getting things wrong, learning from that and then getting them right is actually a very positive behavior.

00:42:34 Andrew Kell: So, I’m sure some of you have come across what are sometimes called the pillars of agile.

00:42:38 Andrew Kell: Two of which are Inspect and adapt so frequently and regularly inspect how things are going. Adapt your behaviour to make things better.

00:42:47 Andrew Kell: You know fundamental cornerstones of agile. Also, being very time focused and having a very strong focus on finishing things on time, he says looking at the clock, also Limiting Work In Progress, and I know some of you might be familiar with Kanban boards where you might have, you know WIP limits Work In Progress limits at the top of each column, and that limits the amount of work that the team can look at any one time, and therefore they should only then take on new work if they’ve actually got capacity.

00:43:20 Andrew Kell: And that’s all about smoothing flow, which is fundamental concept of the Kanban method, which I’m sure some of you are familiar with.

00:43:27 Andrew Kell: And then finally, a word that’s often thrown around in agile is the word Kaizen, which, broadly it’s a Japanese word that broadly translates as changed for the better it’s not a direct translation, but it means continuous improvement, you know change things if they’re not working to make them better.

00:43:44 Andrew Kell: The final thing, I’m going to talk about and I’m almost on time is my concept and I’ll keep this very brief but I know so if you if you’ve been on one of my courses before, we’ll I’ve heard me talk about this agile by stealth means looking at agile as basically being common sense, and when you boil agile down to what it’s really all about a lot of it just seems really obvious.

00:44:06 Andrew Kell: Of course, you should deliver on time and of course you should calibrate with the customer.

00:44:09 Andrew Kell: Of course, you should do that makes complete sense.

00:44:11 Andrew Kell: Of course, you should deliver value early if you can.

00:44:14 Andrew Kell: The problem with agile or one of the problems with agile is all the jargon.

00:44:18 Andrew Kell: You know we talk about sprints and backlogs and time boxes and iterations and all the language that are floating around.

00:44:26 Andrew Kell: Do we need all that jargon?

00:44:28 Andrew Kell: Sometimes you don’t even have to call it agile, you know you could actually say, well, let’s just try this little technique. Let’s not go blazing in and say this is agile we’re doing things agile, let’s try and almost sneak it under the radar, hence the graphic, by the way, and isn’t an agile project, isn’t it just a project that happens to have some agile features at the end of the day.

00:44:49 Andrew Kell: This is a subject I could go on about for some time, by the way, but I’m keeping my eye on the clock and I know I don’t have time to do that, so that’s I think pretty much the end.

00:44:59 Andrew Kell: Just before we do the Q&A session, which we have still just about got time for just what else is going on at Knowledge Train and AgileKRC, I won’t read all these courses out for you, but you know we run courses in all sorts of different areas relating to the subject matter, Agile courses, Project Management courses, courses that bring the two together.

00:45:19 Andrew Kell: If you’re interested in following up on any of those, then either get in touch with me or contact Knowledge Train using the e-mail at the bottom of the slide.

00:45:28 Andrew Kell: Enough of the sales pitch that brings us to the end of the story.

00:45:34 Andrew Kell: Bit of a whistle stop tour, it’s very hard for me to talk about this stuff in a short space of time, as some of you will know from previous experience now it’s time for any questions.

00:45:45 Andrew Kell: We’ve got 13 minutes left just under that anyone has.

00:45:52 Andrew Kell: Carmine long time no see.

00:45:55 Andrew Kell: It’s a few years ago that you came on one of my courses, so I’m looking at Carmine’s question in the chat indeed. ‘Constantly trying to prove myself… yeah, PRINCE2, PMP, MOR, Agile DSDM done with me exactly kind of working in cyber security.’

00:46:09 Andrew Kell: Well, that’s an interesting one.

00:46:12 Andrew Kell: Oh, I know I give his answer all the time, don’t I?

00:46:15 Andrew Kell: But it sort of it depends on where you want to go, doesn’t it?

00:46:19 Andrew Kell: Agile Programme management would potentially be an option. SAFe might be another one.

00:46:27 Andrew Kell: I mean obviously I could mention PRINCE2 Agile.

00:46:29 Andrew Kell: You’ve got PRINCE2, so PRINCE2 Agile would be another one to look at.

00:46:33 Andrew Kell: I don’t know if you guys know this, but there is a three-day PRINCE2 Agile course and there’s a PRINCE2 Agile Practitioner qualification that you do at the end of it, so that’s another one to think about.

00:46:44 Andrew Kell: Other than that, I guess potentially SCRUM.

00:46:46 Andrew Kell: You know if you’re working with people who are using Scrum, then Scrum Master or something like that would be would be a good one to have.

00:46:53 Andrew Kell: That wasn’t a very helpful answer, was it?

00:46:58 Andrew Kell: It depends on where you want to go, basically, Carmine.

00:47:06 Andrew Kell: Right were there any, I’m just scrolling up the chat.

00:47:09 Andrew Kell: Were there any other questions that popped in the chat, have I missed any?

00:47:14 Andrew Kell: Well done to Chris for getting the cheese question right, by the way.

00:47:22 Andrew Kell: OK. So, Christian has just put a comment in the chat how can agile be used to manage a program with multiple projects running simultaneously?

00:47:31 Andrew Kell: OK. So first of all so PRINCE2 is obviously designed for running projects, individual projects. AgilePM is the same AgilePM which is based on DSDM which Carmine has just mentioned, is also based on running projects there is an Agile Programme Management handbook which does go up to that next, you know that container for multiple related projects.

00:47:53 Andrew Kell: I’m going to be honest with you Christian it’s challenging because in a program with multiple projects, you’ve very often got projects that are quite agile and projects that are not very agile.

00:48:04 Andrew Kell: You know, if you’ll again use a software example you’ve got, you know, building the infrastructure typically done in a more waterfall way, building the GUI, the front end, done in a more agile way.

00:48:15 Andrew Kell: No, there’s no easy answer to that question Christian it’s challenging.

00:48:19 Andrew Kell: It absolutely can be done, the two approaches that look at that are Agile Programme Management but there’s also SAFe.

00:48:26 Andrew Kell: I don’t know when you’re familiar with SAFe – Scaled Agile Framework for the enterprise.

00:48:31 Andrew Kell: Which, yes, if you’re in that space Christian, I feel your pain, it is a very strange space to be in, but it might be worth having something like SAFe. Potentially. Scaled Agile Framework for the enterprise.

00:48:43 Andrew Kell: That again takes it up to the programme and then the portfolio level actually.

00:48:48 Andrew Kell: Good, so I’ve got a bit cranky. Sorry, talking too much.

00:48:52 Andrew Kell: Are there any other questions from anybody in the group.

00:49:08 Andrew Kell: So, Emillia’s posted a question about the qualifications. So, there is yes, uh, nicely done Chris.

00:49:17 Andrew Kell: So there is a foundation level qualification PRINCE2 Agile and I did make a note of what the format was and then I’ve thrown the post it away that’s gone well. My recollection is that it’s 50 questions in an hour and it’s not a 50% pass mark. Sorry I was expecting this question so I wrote it down and then I’ve lost the post it that’s really stupid of me.

00:49:44 Andrew Kell: I know that the foundation one is an hour’s exam and I think it’s 50 questions and I think it’s a 60% pass mark or something like that. The practitioner one is a 2 1/2-hour exam. Also 50 questions I think it’s a 56% pass mark and it’s a scenario-based object. It’s a 60. Thank you Beina.

00:50:03 Andrew Kell: Thank you very much.

00:50:04 Andrew Kell: It’s a I think it’s a scenario-based exam.

00:50:08 Andrew Kell: If you’ve done PRINCE2 or AgilePM or MSP

00:50:12 Andrew Kell: The format of the exams is very similar actually to those, so there’s a foundation level, which is for most people generally pretty straightforward, and there’s a practitioner level which I would say is a quite challenging exam like they all are.

00:50:25 Andrew Kell: Sorry, that was a slightly vague answer hopefully that makes sense.

00:50:29 Andrew Kell: Who was it, was that. I’ve scrolled down too far, Emillia.

00:50:35 Andrew Kell: Oh, that’s a good question.

00:50:36 Andrew Kell: I’ve just seen a question from Chris.

00:50:39 Andrew Kell: I’m not the right person to answer that, but I believe that when you pay for the cost of the course, it includes the cost of the exam.

00:50:45 Andrew Kell: I’m 95% sure that’s true Sevcan, you might be able to confirm that if you’re there.

00:50:53 Sevcan Yasa: Yes, that should be the case.

00:50:54 Sevcan Yasa: What I am going to do is, uh, for both Emilia and Chris Dodds, I’m going to send them emails just about more information. Would that be OK for both of you?

00:51:02 Andrew Kell: Good idea.

00:51:07 Andrew Kell: Done, yeah.

00:51:08 Andrew Kell: Yeah, that would be a good idea to confirm that you got the others. Just to come back to Chris’s question any, any course that has an exam as part of the course of the exam fee generally, part of the course fee as far as I know, and I think is that have I missed any questions Sevcan, or have I got them all so very small chat box I’m looking at.

00:51:36 Sevcan Yasa: Yeah, it definitely is. I think that should be all, let’s just say.

00:51:43 Andrew Kell: In which case does that mean I’ve finished early?

00:51:50 Sevcan Yasa: Yep, OK.

00:51:51 Andrew Kell: So very unlike.

00:51:54 Andrew Kell: I could have spent more time talking through my slides in the end.

00:51:58 Andrew Kell: I don’t know if you’ve seen Carmine’s comment in the chat Sevcan.

00:52:00 Sevcan Yasa: Yes, I’m just writing her name down and which course are you interested in?

00:52:11 Sevcan Yasa: Agile, perfect OK.

00:52:14 Andrew Kell: Well, we can offer quite a few of those.

00:52:17 Andrew Kell: Yeah, and Chris has asked for the same thing.

00:52:18 Sevcan Yasa: Chris yeah, I’ve written Chris’s name down.

00:52:21 Andrew Kell: Programme yeah, so Agile Programme Management potentially for coming here, by the look of it.

00:52:31 Andrew Kell: Good so if there are any other questions, please put them in chat.

00:52:36 Andrew Kell: Otherwise, guys, I think we’re basically done.

00:52:39 Sevcan Yasa: Yep, I am quickly going to put a feedback poll, just so you can quickly answer 6 simple questions.

00:52:51 Sevcan Yasa: I would really appreciate it and I really hope everyone learned something new today and I can see that many people found it very interested, which I’m glad, and I’m sure Andrew’s glad about that.

00:53:02 Andrew Kell: This is terrifyingly immediate feedback Sevcan.

00:53:05 Sevcan Yasa: Oh, that’s impressive.

00:53:11 Andrew Kell: So far so good.

00:53:12 Sevcan Yasa: Yes.

00:53:15 Andrew Kell: Yeah, obviously this has been very much a whistle stop tour at a very high level There’s a lot more as some of you know, there’s a lot more I can say about a lot of these topics whether you want me to or not is a whole different question.

00:53:29 Andrew Kell: Thanks for the comments in the chat.

00:53:32 Andrew Kell: If anyone does have any questions, they think I might be able to address then, then please feel free to drop me an e-mail.

00:53:39 Andrew Kell: It’s [email protected]. I’m happy to deal with queries by e-mail. If they want to find out anything, more about anything we’ve talked about, et cetera. If it’s to do with courses, I’ll probably pass you on to someone at Knowledge Train or AgileKRC.

00:53:54 Andrew Kell: But if it’s to do with agile, yeah, please drop me.

00:53:58 Sevcan Yasa: I think Karen has a question for you, Andrew.

00:54:00 Andrew Kell: Yes, that one, so that’s a good one. So, we do talk about this actually, on the PRINCE2 Agile course and when we talk about closing a project, the final part of PRINCE2 in theory, closing a project down and doing that final retrospective and review should be a really straightforward thing, because as you’ve said in the chat Karen because you’re doing continuous improvement and you’re trying to improve things all the way through project there shouldn’t be any surprises at the end of an agile project, so closing an agile project down should be relatively straightforward.

00:54:36 Andrew Kell: You’ll have noticed I’ve just used the word ‘should’ about four times, so clearly in the real world that’s not always going to be the case, but in theory the lessons that you learn should be learned during the project.

00:54:48 Andrew Kell: Which again to me, has always felt like common sense.

00:54:51 Andrew Kell: You know, learning lessons at or after the end of a project is too late for that project.

00:54:56 Andrew Kell: Cheers, Carmine, speak to you soon, so that’s always been my view So you know you, you still need to close the project down and do that sort of project handover, but it should be very straightforward. Hopefully that makes sense Karen.

00:55:09 Andrew Kell: Yes, Thank you.

00:55:09 Andrew Kell: Sevcan just put my e-mail address in the chat Suzanne, I saw you asked what my address was. Sorry I probably read it out very quickly.

00:55:18 Andrew Kell: Cool, still got 3 minutes left if anyone’s got any other questions.

00:55:22 Andrew Kell: I can see we’re slowly starting to lose people.

00:55:26 Andrew Kell: I’m pleased that 27 have stayed for 57 minutes though That’s all, that’s encouraging.

00:55:37 Andrew Kell: It’s all gone quiet Sevcan.

00:55:39 Sevcan Yasa: Yes, I can see someone is typing, so yeah.

00:55:42 Andrew Kell: Oh OK, Oh yes.

00:55:44 Andrew Kell: Yes, I can see that.

00:55:50 Andrew Kell: Yes, just to pick up on Fiona’s comment this is the first one of these that I’ve done, I must admit.

00:55:54 Andrew Kell: But I’m hoping we will do more and I’ve actually got a list of my hobby topics that I’d like to talk about, us trainers love a platform to talk you know, we do.

00:56:04 Andrew Kell: So yes, hopefully they’ll be more absolutely right.

00:56:10 Andrew Kell: Thank you, Bina.

00:56:21 Andrew Kell: OK.

00:56:22 Andrew Kell: Thanks, Eduardo, thank you for attending.

00:56:29 Sevcan Yasa: I don’t think there’s going to be any more questions.

00:56:38 Andrew Kell: That’s almost likely.

00:56:39 Andrew Kell: Am I right of thinking that Olu you dialed in from Nigeria?

00:56:44 Andrew Kell: Sorry I’ve shortened your name to Olu that’s really rude actually I should just try and say your whole name.

00:56:53 Andrew Kell: I think I spotted earlier in the in the list of participants that you dialed in from Nigeria, so welcome.

00:57:01 Andrew Kell: Thank you, Karen, you’re welcome.

00:57:13 Andrew Kell: There we go.

00:57:16 Andrew Kell: Thank you, Emillia.

00:57:17 Andrew Kell: Thank you Modupe.

00:57:21 Andrew Kell: Yeah guys, you can drop off whenever.

00:57:24 Andrew Kell: Feel free to e-mail me if you think of any questions after the event.

00:57:39 Andrew Kell: Yeah, Alexa, I’m very fond of the expression agile by stealth and it genuinely will be the title of my book if I ever get around to writing it. Sadly, I’m probably a bit too lazy to actually write that book, but I know I should.

00:58:03 Andrew Kell: We’re down to 7, 6, Sevcan.

00:58:09 Sevcan Yasa: Yes, I think that should be the end those who stayed. Thank you.

00:58:16 Andrew Kell: Yes, thank you everyone.

00:58:18 Sevcan Yasa: Thanks, and have a nice evening everyone and to you of course Andrew. Thank you so much for everything.

00:58:23 Andrew Kell: No worries, cheers. Thank you for your support.

00:58:26 Sevcan Yasa: Thank you very much. Bye everyone.

00:58:29 Andrew Kell: See you next time.